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Plenty of good stuff to chew on my friend. You hit plenty of bullseyes though, whether by accident or design, you tend to avoid some of the stickiest areas of conservative governing overreach:

Bush Jr. and Cheney by any measure fit into the buckets of Stupid and Evil. They unleashed a completely unnecessary "pre-emptive" war with Iraq that caused untold misery and destruction for everyone involved, and we got NOTHING for it. To wit: "Between 280,771 - 315,190 have died from direct war related violence caused by the U.S., its allies, the Iraqi military and police, and opposition forces from the time of the invasion through March 2023." [Brown U.] This is a "conservative" death toll BTW, and other sources go far higher. And then there's the $1.9 trillion price tag...

But beyond those guys, for sure, there are plenty of areas that a reasonable Left of Center citizen (such as myself) would not categorize as stupid or evil, and merely strongly disagree with. How we tax, where we spend money, the best way to foster educated citizens, clean energy vs oil... Sure, those differences are that, and not evil. In the past I really respected the kind of Center-Right politicians we used to have in this country (sorry, Ron Paul need not apply). People like Mit Romney, John McCain, George Bush Sr. and plenty of others. We also used to have a lot more Center Left politicians that worked together with those guys too.

Too bad we don't have many of either left around, but at least in congress it doesn't seem like any of GOP can even be call "conservative" anymore. They aren't "conserving" much of anything, and almost every one of them signed on to validate a petty, stupid AND evil man who knowing sparked an insurrection. That fact just can't be danced around like it's "nothing."

And on the state level: we keep running into yet more government intrusion once any state finds itself in a GOP majority. Areas like banning abortions, despite every poll in American clearly indicating that a strong majority favor access at least out to 3 months if not more. This brand of the GOP would happily create a Christian theocracy, and many with say so. And I promise you, any Christian Conservative who says they "stand by Israel? They are NOT your friend. Surely you understand they just want to keep that ground open for (what they hope) are the imminent "End Days" of Jesus' Second Coming. They also like having Israel open for Christian tourism too...

So for sure- there are plenty classical Liberals still out here; it's just been harder and harder to find any classical conservatives lately.

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